Tuesday, July 3, 2018

728: Origins of Modern Racism....

About 2.5 million years ago the homo habilis showed the intelligence and skill to use tools 
and 600.000 to 300.000 years ago the homo heidelbergensis discovered the use of fire and spears,
the first obvious proof for an active (big game) hunt. Homo heidelbergensis already had intellectual and cognitive skills 
like anticipatory planning, thinking and acting that so far have only been attributed to modern man  
Behavioral modernity, involving the development of language, figurative art and early forms of religion (etc.) is taken to have arisen before 40,000 years ago,

July 25, 1978, exactly 40 years ago the first IVF baby of the world was born in the United Kingdom. So much for the evolution of mankind. 
A few weeks ago there was a hearing with members of parliament and scientists, the latter who pleaded for more room for embryo breeding.
One of the wishes was allowance of experimenting with genetic engineering on cultured embryos.
This by means of the CRISPR-CAS9 methode, with which it is possible to remove some "sick" DNA and replace it with healthy DNA.
The article in my newspaper of Monday, June 25 was of course zooming on on the ethical aspects of these wishes of scientists and legislation.
I'll not elaborate on that subject now, for what I want to point out firstly is  the acceleration of evolution
and more important , second, on whose shoulders we are standing here: a whole group of actual racist scientists of the early 1900s.
You could say, that modern racism and the belief in White Supremacy came to full growth in the first decade of the 20th century.
There are a number of reasons. Firstly there is the acceptance of Darwinian evolution. The fittest survives
and of course the white Europeans and Americans saw in themselves the proof, motivated by the terrific science they had developed.
A second reason was Hugo de Vries, who had rediscovered the heredity laws of Mendel and introduced the concept of genes. I mentioned him already  in a previous lecture.
The discovery, that human traits were hereditary, was of course just on step away for the belief in races.
The next step was the Eugenic Movement, which was actually founded by a half-cousin of Charles Darwin, Francis Galton (1822-1911) .
However, the idea is not new. Plato (348 BC+) was already advising eugenics. He believed human reproduction should be monitored and controlled by the state. 
However, Plato understood this form of government control would not be readily accepted, and proposed the truth be concealed from the public via a fixed lottery. 
Mates, in Plato's Republic, would be chosen by a "marriage number" in which the quality of the individual would be quantitatively analyzed, 
and persons of high numbers would be allowed to procreate with other persons of high numbers. 
In theory, this would lead to predictable results and the improvement of the human race. 
Sir Francis Galton systematized these ideas and practices according to new knowledge about the evolution of man and animals provided by the theory of his half-cousin Charles Darwin.
And thus our present day racism is derived from that  pseudo-scientific justification, which showed its true face in Nazi-Germany.
We have to live with it and it has not disappeared. White Supremacy is still a serious topic in some countries.

Thank you for your attention again...

The Discussion

[13:25] .: Beertje :. (beertje.beaumont): thank you Herman
[13:25] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): Indeed Trump
[13:25] herman Bergson: And...LAcy....Trump is a perfect example of White Supremacy thinking indeed
[13:25] CB Axel: Even though there is nothing supreme about him but his ego.
[13:26] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): white supremacy, greed and thinking he can do anything with women as well
[13:26] .: Beertje :. (beertje.beaumont): it as large as his feet:)
[13:26] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): that kind of type
[13:26] herman Bergson: There is nothing supreme about any of us, CB..we are just human beings....
[13:26] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): indeed
[13:26] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): all the same
[13:26] CB Axel: True. Just try telling Trump and his kind that.
[13:26] herman Bergson: two legs two arms and a head with a brain init...an dthat brain is the problem :-)
[13:27] Hope (naskiff): Should we expect Trump to be human too, or super human just because he's president?
[13:27] CB Axel: I've seen the insides of enough people to know that under our skin we're all pretty much the same.
[13:27] CB Axel: He thought he was super human before idiots elected him president.
[13:27] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): Trump is not human, he is a monster AND a bloddy idiot
[13:27] Hope (naskiff): How do you know he thought that?
[13:28] herman Bergson: To be president of the US is no big deal at all...any idiot can become it...Trump is the proof...you only need money
[13:28] CB Axel: From everything he said and did before he ran.
[13:28] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): seems so sadly
[13:28] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): money = respect no matter how big an asshole you are
[13:28] CB Axel: I've hated him since at least the 80's, so, you know, before it was cool.
[13:28] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): thats a BIG problem
[13:28] herman Bergson: Trump has a serious inferiority complex....
[13:29] herman Bergson: that is why he always yells that he is so smart
[13:29] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): well thats true for sure
[13:29] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): and why he calls everyone else for having Low IQ
[13:29] herman Bergson: any smart person is justt smart and keeps his mouth shut :-)
[13:29] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): wneh its him who have low IQ
[13:29] CB Axel: I believe that, Herman. He covers it up with bravado.
[13:30] herman Bergson: Yes CB....did you see him on that convention....
[13:30] herman Bergson: HE was bragging about the ELITE...
[13:30] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): indeed, screams and rants, as i said before i had hoped first time i saw him and heard his rant that someone would lock him up in an asylum
[13:30] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): that was 1 year before the electin
[13:30] herman Bergson: The man said....THE ELITE...I have a more beautiful apartment...
[13:30] Hope (naskiff): But nobody knows these things...?   You make assumptions because you disagree with him, and you treat it as facts about his IQ and his ego.
[13:30] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): but no he ended up in the white house instead!
[13:31] CB Axel: His ego is out there for all to see.
[13:31] herman Bergson: I guess you respond to Bejiita , Hope?
[13:31] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): well for on thing i hate braggers, thinking they are better then anyone else and constantly ranting about it, plus he lies a lot
[13:31] Hope (naskiff): Isn't there more to learn if you assume that somehow he's not that dumb?  It would be pretty interesting to ponder about why there are such big differences in opinion if it's not due to idiocy.  It's too simple.
[13:32] herman Bergson: Trump isn't dumb at all..on the contrary....
[13:32] herman Bergson: But what he is doing is destroying his country....
[13:33] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): indeed, just made 100s of children forever orphans
[13:33] CB Axel: Perhaps he's intelligent, but he is so deficient in every other characteristic that I admire that any intellect he has is insignificant.
[13:33] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): 1000s
[13:33] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): :(
[13:33] herman Bergson: At the moment Chana has already moved in as worldleader number one!
[13:33] herman Bergson: China
[13:33] CB Axel: He is human trash, a waste of space, and poor use of oxygen.
[13:33] Hope (naskiff): I wonder if most people who live in China care about that...  :/
[13:34] herman Bergson: The US has become a totally unreliable ally for anyone....
[13:34] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): hehehe agree CB, lets bury him under a landfill 100s of miles from nearest civilisation
[13:34] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): hehe
[13:34] herman Bergson: You go to the G7...sign a treaty and then tweet from your Airforce One...I retract my signature
[13:34] Hope (naskiff): Interesting, did he explain why he did that?
[13:35] Lacy (alisa.menna): heheh
[13:35] herman Bergson: Yes....he felt offended for some reason
[13:35] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): cause he did not liked someones tweet
[13:35] CB Axel: That would only solve a small bit of the problem, Bejiita. There are many others like him running businesses in this country.
[13:35] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): and got upset and started screaming like a baby in a sandbox again
[13:35] herman Bergson: No..was Trudeau...what he said
[13:35] Hope (naskiff): Trudeau isn't just "someone"...
[13:36] herman Bergson: Certainly not...
[13:36] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): name seems at least familiar
[13:36] Hope (naskiff): Lol.
[13:36] herman Bergson: But to get back to our main point of today....
[13:36] Hope (naskiff): Justin Trudeau is Canada's prime minister.
[13:36] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): ah
[13:36] herman Bergson: Yes he is :-)
[13:37] herman Bergson: we inherited modern racism form the early years of the 20th century...
[13:37] herman Bergson: the belief that there are races....
[13:37] Lacy (alisa.menna): i apologize for "slight" misdirection
[13:37] herman Bergson: ABSOLUTE NONSENSE...
[13:37] Lacy (alisa.menna): *the..
[13:38] herman Bergson: there do not exist pure races anymore on this planet...
[13:38] herman Bergson: two or three lectures ago Ciska gave us a URL of Youtube...
[13:39] herman Bergson: you should have watched that
[13:39] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): yep
[13:39] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): was a good one
[13:40] herman Bergson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyaEQEmt5ls
[13:40] herman Bergson: watch this...
[13:40] herman Bergson: and be healed :-))
[13:40] CB Axel: It's pretty funny when white supremacists have their DNA tested and find out they have African genes. °͜°
[13:40] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako):
[13:41] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): we all are from there so
[13:41] herman Bergson: there was an englishman who hated Germans....He had German ancestory, CB :-)
[13:41] CB Axel: Right, Bejiita. °͜°
[13:42] CB Axel: What if all the DNA testing people are getting done just starts to change the face of racism?
[13:42] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): however the comments laim its all fake, that the people are only acting
[13:42] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): that the video is staged
[13:42] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): but not sure bout that
[13:42] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): i just watched it and the message i agree is true
[13:42] herman Bergson: ahh...is it FAKE NEWS, Bejiita?
[13:42] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): haha
[13:42] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): hopefully its not
[13:43] herman Bergson: I think it is improbable....
[13:43] CB Axel: What if someone has their's tested and find out that they have DNA from every country except, and I'll pick on Bejiita here, Sweden?
[13:43] CB Axel: Will that person begin to discriminate against Swedes?
[13:43] herman Bergson: for our DNA contains so much  information...
[13:43] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): you mean if i would do a dna test and not have any Swedish dna in me?
[13:43] herman Bergson: Well then Bejiita has a problem :-))
[13:44] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): hehe
[13:44] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): well im just me anyway
[13:44] CB Axel whispers: You'd sure have a lot of questions for your parents. LOL
[13:44] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako):
[13:44] herman Bergson: Sweden doesnt exist at all..Bejiita invented it..:-)))
[13:44] CB Axel: LOL
[13:44] CB Axel: All these countries are invented.
[13:44] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): hahaha
[13:45] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): well thats true
[13:45] herman Bergson: Yes...there is only Second Life...:-)
[13:45] Hope (naskiff): There's some irony here... ^^  If someone straight from Africa moves to another country like Sweden and they have no swedish DNA, is that a problem too?
[13:45] Hope (naskiff): Unless I'm missing something
[13:45] .: Beertje :. (beertje.beaumont): don't laugh. ..i'm part Begian
[13:45] .: Beertje :. (beertje.beaumont): Belgian
[13:46] herman Bergson: Why would be having any kind of DNA a problem between human beings, Hope?
[13:46] CB Axel: No. Why would it. Unless the Swedes decide to start discriminating against anyone with Swedish heritage.
[13:46] Lacy (alisa.menna) whispers: i'm part Beagle Hound
[13:47] Hope (naskiff): I don't know, I can't think of a reason...  I just thought it was amusing that the possibility of a Swede having no Swedish DNA would be strange.  I was just nitpicking maybe.
[13:47] CB Axel: But DNA testing could start people looking into themselves and deciding that their combination of genes is the best and all others need to get out of their way.
[13:47] Lacy (alisa.menna): Eventually, everyone will be one colour.
[13:48] CB Axel: There could very possibly be people in Sweden without any Swedish blood.
[13:48] Hope (naskiff): And all the same.
[13:48] CB Axel: I agree, Lacy.
[13:48] herman Bergson: Well...CB...that is what I was talking about....the fact that we can "repai" DNA.....
[13:48] CB Axel: I hope so, anyway.
[13:48] herman Bergson: Creepy thing
[13:48] Lacy (alisa.menna): and we'll all get along better.
[13:49] Hope (naskiff): It will be a sad day for those who like Asian women...  or black guys...  or big butts or freckles.
[13:49] Hope (naskiff): It will be great for everybody else.
[13:50] herman Bergson: What do I hear here...white supremacy?
[13:50] CB Axel: There is at least one scientist I've heard about who is worried that CRISPR might cause problems in DNA while repairing the part it fixes. He/she thinks it can make the altered DNA more vulnerable to cancer.
[13:50] herman Bergson: Which skin color should we pick...???
[13:50] herman Bergson: I suggest GREEN for everyone...
[13:50] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): hahaa
[13:50] .: Beertje :. (beertje.beaumont): or Blue
[13:50] Hope (naskiff): That's the thing, why do we need to pick *one* colour?  :P
[13:50] herman Bergson: No debate about race anymore...
[13:50] Hope (naskiff): What's wrong with diversity?
[13:51] herman Bergson: we are all frogs
[13:51] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): well if you could in some simple way in demand change skin color id surely want to see how id look black
[13:51] .: Beertje :. (beertje.beaumont): prefer white
[13:51] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): id think id look kind of cool
[13:51] Lacy (alisa.menna): i want to be mystery flavoured.
[13:51] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako):
[13:51] herman Bergson: The movie AVATAR....Blue is the color ! :-))
[13:52] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): those looks really nice too
[13:52] CB Axel: I saw a picture of what at least one person thought we'd look like in the future. One race made from the merging of all. There would still be diversity, but the basic model would be the same.
[13:52] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako):
[13:52] herman Bergson: As I said...it is Second Life
[13:52] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako):
[13:52] .: Beertje :. (beertje.beaumont): if you mix every color you get white
[13:53] Lacy (alisa.menna): aww
[13:53] .: Beertje :. (beertje.beaumont): try it
[13:53] CB Axel: We would all be a pretty caramel color, according to the picture I saw. I thought the person looked very attractive. °͜°
[13:53] .: Beertje :. (beertje.beaumont): it's true
[13:53] Hope (naskiff): So it will be like cane sugar to one extreme and stevia sugar to the other extreme, and sugar in everything...  no other spices allowed.
[13:53] herman Bergson: no...you get black
[13:53] .: Beertje :. (beertje.beaumont): no
[13:53] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): only in the RGB scheme
[13:53] Lacy (alisa.menna): Black Trumps all other colours
[13:53] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): and with CMYK you get black if u mix them all
[13:53] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): rainbow spectrum give white though
[13:53] .: Beertje :. (beertje.beaumont): yes:)
[13:54] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): but non of these colors are in our skin
[13:54] herman Bergson: you confuse additive and subtractive light, Beertje
[13:54] herman Bergson: in paint you get black in light you get white indeed
[13:54] .: Beertje :. (beertje.beaumont): i'm confused about everything now
[13:54] .: Beertje :. (beertje.beaumont): I paint a bit
[13:55] Hope (naskiff): So ...is...  anyone interested in pondering what's wrong with the skin diversity that we have now?  *tentatively raises her hand* ...no?  ...ok *lowers it...*
[13:55] herman Bergson: yes..but never mix all colors to get white :-))
[13:55] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): i do a lot of 3d graphics for my games so have a good check on things like this
[13:55] herman Bergson: what skin diversity Hope?
[13:55] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): to get the proper colors on things no matter if its paint on a house or a person
[13:56] CB Axel: I don't think there's anything wrong with skin diversity. I just think that as people of different colors get together and have babies, we'll all eventually become one color.
[13:56] Hope (naskiff): It ranges from very light beige to very dark brown.  Compared to everyone being more or less medium brown...
[13:56] CB Axel: Which is what the person who made the picture I mentioned was thinking.
[13:56] .: Beertje :. (beertje.beaumont): doens't it depend on how much sunlight you get?
[13:57] Hope (naskiff): No, black are born that way
[13:57] .: Beertje :. (beertje.beaumont): in the north people are mostly white
[13:57] herman Bergson: YEs CB...at the end we all would become a kind og=f light brownish color
[13:57] CB Axel: And it's not that we're trying to become one color. It's just what's happening as people from different races reproduce together.
[13:57] .: Beertje :. (beertje.beaumont): there are no races ...
[13:57] CB Axel: Even black people tan.
[13:57] Hope (naskiff): Okay. So it seems inevitable...  will it be a good thing, bad thing, or just meh?
[13:57] CB Axel: It will just be.
[13:57] Hope (naskiff): So, no loss then.
[13:58] CB Axel: Nope.
[13:58] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): well i guess we can soon change the color genetically, as said id thought a while how i would look black
[13:58] CB Axel: And, like I said, I thought it looked pretty. °͜°
[13:58] herman Bergson: what is good or bad about a skin color...NOTHING....it is a cultural bias, prejudice that does it
[13:58] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): id look great like that i think
[13:58] Hope (naskiff): So those who like the xtremes or freckles, they'll either die out anyway or suck it up and adapt...
[13:59] CB Axel: I think there will still be freckles.
[13:59] Lacy (alisa.menna): That's a lot of tattoo ink.
[13:59] CB Axel: Some black people have freckles.
[13:59] CB Axel: I have a black coworker with freckles.
[13:59] Lacy (alisa.menna): Do they have red hair too ?
[13:59] herman Bergson: That black actor...Freeman..? HWE has freckles too
[13:59] Hope (naskiff): Skin colour does have an impact, it's visual, it's part of beauty, and it's different.  One doesn't have to be better than another, but preferences are awesome and so are differences.  That's why there are more ice cream flavours than vanilla.
[13:59] CB Axel: He has some reddish highlights.
[14:00] Lacy (alisa.menna): Cool
[14:00] CB Axel nods
[14:00] herman Bergson: Well...my friends...
[14:00] herman Bergson: Guess we saved the world another time again...
[14:00] Lacy (alisa.menna): If we all looked the same, there would be no beautiful or ugly.
[14:01] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako):
[14:01] herman Bergson: May I thank you all for your participation....:-)
[14:01] CB Axel: Only one more lecture before the summer hols. :(
[14:01] herman Bergson: Class dismissed....^_^
[14:01] Hope (naskiff): It was fun and I hope I'm not hated too much. :P
[14:01] CB Axel: Thank you, Herman.
[14:01] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): I might be out dance battling on Thursday, will see, a festival beginning
[14:01] CB Axel: I enjoyed the discussion, Hope.
[14:01] herman Bergson: You are totally loved here , Hope...
[14:01] Hope (naskiff): Cheers. :)
[14:01] Lacy (alisa.menna): She is ?
[14:01] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): maybe, ill gonna go down and see if my buddies are there
[14:01] Lacy (alisa.menna) giggles
[14:02] herman Bergson: What should we do when there is no hope????
[14:02] CB Axel: LOL
[14:02] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): create hope
[14:02] Hope (naskiff): I like that!
[14:02] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako):
[14:02] herman Bergson: Good one Bejiita!
[14:02] Lacy (alisa.menna): watch episode four ?
[14:02] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): im gonna create a lot of hope at that event
[14:02] CB Axel: See you Thursday. Bye.
[14:02] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): do my best
[14:02] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): bye for now
[14:02] Hope (naskiff): Good bye. :)
[14:03] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako): nice as usual
[14:03] herman Bergson: Yes..Thursday may be a revelation...on Trump :-)
[14:03] Particle Physicist Bejiita (bejiita.imako):
[14:03] .: Beertje :. (beertje.beaumont): :)
[14:03] .: Beertje :. (beertje.beaumont): can't wait